2/18/2024 0 Comments Fly tying elk vs deerOtherwise, there's no set in stone rules for tying or the use of any material.This is not meant to be mean. The primary concern will be materials that readily float, such as deer or elk body, and those that don't, or the amount of movement and action a material may have. So, when creating a pattern or tying from a pattern recipe & making substitutions having some knowledge about similar & dissimilar materials allows making good choices to obtain a desired result. The same can be said of many synthetic materials too. Midge1, we all do that to some extent, and no, there's not really much difference between those two hair types as far as tying, but across the range of possible hairs & furs there can be vast differences. I've done a little hunting over the winter & added several Squirrel hides & tails to my tying supplies. Be sure to take the time to properly clean & dry any such items too. Just be sure to use good judgement & health practices when skinning & handling raw fur if you do engage in such practices. Not everyone has the desire to do this or is comfortable with doing it, so buying is the best option. It's not for everyone, but certainly one way to gain needed materials. I hunted & trapped for many years, and used to process such furs to sell for tying. Marshel, hunting, trapping, picking up road kill where legal & generally scavenging from sources such as furriers or taxidermists can all be good ways to increase materials variety without a lot of expense, if a person knows how to properly handle the mess of doing so. Moose is still a better choice for that pattern. Groundhog tail hair can be used as a sub for moose mane, but not the best sub. Plus, opossum usually has black tips on the hair, but it will work. Even the hair on the tails can vary greatly, some being very fine textured, some straight, others course & krinkled or wavy.īTW, badger body hair or American Opossum hair can work well as a sub for calftail, but you'll need to remove most of the guard hairs. You might get some suitable hair from the base of a deer tail for the body on that fly, or you may not. As an example, Deer belly hair is not the same as the hair from the back. But, even with some, such as deer, elk or moose hair, there can be differences depending on what part of the animal the hair came from, so even then, you can't always simply say this will substitute for that. If you want to learn about tying & all the possible substitutions, you have to become familiar with the materials, and best way to do that is buy them & tie with them. Either that or very much limit the patterns you tie & only buy the materials for that limited number of patterns. I would venture to guess I have some where around 40k invested, so the thing is if you want to play you got to pay. It's not likely you have them now, so either way you end up buying more & more materials. There are many materials that could be substituted for other materials, but you'll again find the same issue. If you tie flies for many species, it can get costly, as there's hundreds of different types of materials & hooks. There is a lot of satisfaction from catching fish on something you've made too. You won't save any money if that's your objective, but in the long run as you've already said, you can tie whatever you like, and probably be a better fly than some you can buy. Marshel, one of the addictions with tying is the collecting of all the various materials. I am coming to the point of what ever hair I have that is similar will do. Now whatever I have close to the called for hook. I used to get hung up the hook called for. This is what gets confusing about tying with me. My wife presented me with an Alaskan fishing trip for Valentines Day, so I am starting to tie up and will probably have many more tying questions. Kind of thinking it may not be worth it, except the satisfaction that I tied the fly and maybe better quality. Could of bought many flies from my cheapo fly site. The last fly I tied, cost $15 in addition materials. I used to get hung up on the manufactor's hook called for. Again I have no calf hairs, but do have white deer tail hairs to use. Could the Elk be substituted for the moose? Already have $$$$s worth of stuff but still don't have what the recipe calls for.Īs an example: Irresistible Wulff Irresistible Wulff - Fly Tying tutorials | Fly dreamers I am not a real experienced tier, but it seems that every pattern I research to tie I need to go out and buy something more. Questions on the difference of the different hairs/furs?
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